Concept of redemption in islam

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Muslims often object to the Christian doctrine of atonement (specifically, the doctrine that Jesus willingly died on the cross for the sins of others). But Muhammad taught his followers that Allah will punish Jews and Christians for the sins of Muslims. Is the Islamic doctrine of atonement (i.e., that Christians and Jews will unwillingly be saddled with the sins of Muslims) somehow better than the Christian doctrine (according to which God’s perfect justice is matched only by his perfect love)?

For those who want to take a closer look at the ahadith I quoted in the video, here they are:

Sahih Muslim 6665—Abu Musa reported that Allah’s Messenger said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.
Sahih Muslim 6666—Allah’s Apostle said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.
Sahih Muslim 6668—Allah’s Messenger [said]: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians.
110 Hadith Qudsi—Allah’s Messenger said: On the Day of Resurrection, my Ummah (nation) will be gathered into three groups. One sort will enter Paradise without rendering an account (of their deeds). Another sort will be reckoned an easy account and admitted into Paradise. Yet another sort will come bearing on their backs heaps of sins like great mountains. Allah will ask the angels though He knows best about them: Who are these people? They will reply: They are humble slaves of yours. He will say: Unload the sins from them and put the same over the Jews and Christians: then let the humble slaves get into Paradise by virtue of My Mercy.

false teachers

the father is the son and the son is the holy spirit… is that true?

That is a belief, also called modalism in theology.

This simply states that the trinity in the Bible is not Three Persons co-eternal, co-existing, co-equal One Living God but each person of the Trinity becoming the other; i.e., the Father became the Son and the Son became the Holy Spirit.

Some of the people or the groups of people adhering to this fallacious belief are T.D.Jakes, Watchman Nee, (Witness Lee, Local Church).

I found this article on The Bereans about Watchman Nee’s view of trinity.  Here is an excerpt :

1. The Recovery Version of the Bible -– this was spearheaded by Witness Lee along with a number of Local Church members. Only The Recovery New Testament has extensive footnotes written by Witness Lee.

The Recovery New Testament — Originally labeled ‘The Gold Bar,’ this is the name given to the first edition of the Local Church’s New Testament, The Recovery New Testament. Individual New Testament books were bound together in this single volume in 1985 and was published by the Living Stream Ministry. The overall size, shape, and distinctive gold edging coined this name. The second edition of The Recovery New Testament, published 1991, was printed in England by University Press, Cambridge. The binding and print quality of this second edition rivals that of many recognized study Bibles, such as the Ryrie Study Bible. The Recovery New Testament contains a number of extensive footnotes, all of which are written by Witness Lee, which are supportive of his particular theological slant.”[4]

Lee and the Local Churches believe that there is only one proper version for it’s members and that is the “Recovery Version.”

“First, a Christian needs a proper version of the Bible to progress in his Christian life. Therefore, you need to purchase a Recovery Version. This version is the best translation of the New Testament available today. It is up-to-date and easy to read. It has an outline to help you obtain an overview of what you are reading. It contains footnotes to explain some of the hard-to-understand truths. It also has references to help you locate verses that corresponds to the verses you are reading for your study.”[5]

They have also painstakingly translated Lee’s Recovery Version of the New Testament into Filipino language (1991). This Bible was named, “Ang Bagong Tipan: Salin sa Pagbabawi” which was translated by The Editorial Section of Living Stream Ministry. They have also informed the would-be readers that all notes, charts and references were actually translated from the writings of Witness Lee. It was published in Seoul, Korea and was translated into Filipino in the Philippines. This Study Bible with matching commentary by Lee is very much inclined in his own preconceived and heretical version of the Trinity i.e. modalism in triune form. An example of his commentary on John 14:7 in the Filipino translation reveals,

“Ipinakikita ng kapitulong ito ang Tres-unong Diyos para sa pamamahagi ng Kanyang Sarili tungo sa loob ng mga mananampalataya. Siya ang nag-iisang Diyos, ngunit Siya ay tatlo-ang Ama, ang Anak, at ang Espiritu. Ang Anak ay ang pagsasakatawan at kahayagan ng Ama (bb. 7-11), at ang Espiritu ay ang realidad ng at pagkatanto sa Anak (bb. 17-20). Ang Ama ay naihayag at nakita sa Anak (ang Anak ay tinawag ding Ama – Isa. 9:6) at bilang Espiritu (IICor. 3:17) ang Anak ay nahayag at natanto. Ang Ama sa loob ng Anak ay nakakubli, ang Diyos Anak ay naipakita sa gitna ng mga tao, at ang Diyos Espiritu ay pumapasok tungo sa loob ng tao upang maging kanyang buhay, kanyang panustos ng buhay, at kanyang lahat-lahat. Samakatuwid, ang Ama na nasa loob ng Anak, at ang Anak na naging Espiritu, ay ang Tres-unong Diyos na namamahagi ng Kanyang Sarili tungo sa loob natin at naging ating bahagi upang matamasa natin Siya bilang ang ating lahat-lahat sa loob ng Kanyang maka-Diyos na Trinidad.”[6]

This is what Lee was saying: the Son is the embodiment of the Father and when He resides in the believer He becomes the Holy Spirit so that the Triune God can be experienced. In fact this harmonizes with Lee’s statements in his books, quoted in the book, The New Cults edited by Dr. Walter Martin:

“Thus, the three Persons of the Trinity become the three successive steps in the process of God’s economy.”[7]“In the heavens, where man cannot see Him, God is the Father; when He is expressed among men, He is the Son; and when He comes into men, He is the Spirit. The Father was expressed among men in the Son, and the Son became the Spirit to come into men. The Father is in the Son, and the Son became the Spirit—the three are just one God.”[8]

“Like wise, the Father, the Son, and Spirit are not three Gods, but three stages of one God for us to possess and enjoy.”[9]

These statements by Witness Lee are apparently the beliefs of a modalist whether he along with the Local Church leaders admit it or not.

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